Was the Roman Catholic Church Established by Christ?


Resolved:
"The Roman Catholic Church is the true Church of Jesus Christ according to the Scriptures."

[This debate will center primarily on the Scriptures we both accept, although the Fathers can be brought in secondarily -- I (P) accept the "burden of proof" in this debate]

see also below: Bibliography for this Debate 

P
YES, Affirming
Opening Statement
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Jason Engwer
NO, Denying
Opening Statement
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Phil's First Rebuttal of Jason
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Jason's First Rebuttal of Phil
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Phil's Second Rebuttal
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Jason's Second Rebuttal
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Cross Examination:
5 Questions from Phil
Cross Examination:
5 Questions from Jason
Phil Answers Jason's Questions Jason Answers Phil's Questions
Phil Rebuts Jason's Answers Jason Rebuts Phil's Answers
Phil Replies to Jason's Rebut Jason Replies to Phil's Rebut
Closing Statement
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Closing Statement
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Background to the Debate:

Have you read any of the following books? Do you believe they are true? Do you believe they can be defended? Do you think any of their arguments are sound? Would you like to discuss this in a friendly Email debate? (These are some of the more "scholarly" evangelical / fundamentalist Protestant books out there responding to Roman Catholic claims....)

Roman Catholics and Evangelicals: Agreements and Differences (1995) by Norman Geisler/Ralph MacKenzie  The Roman Catholic Controversy (1996) by James R. White  Roman Catholicism: Evangelical Protestants Analyze What Divides and Unites Us (1994) edited by John Armstrong  Reasoning from the Scriptures with Catholics (2000) by Ron Rhodes  Evangelical Answers (1997) by Eric Svendsen

or even more "controversial" or "sensationalist" books

A Woman Rides the Beast (1994) by Dave Hunt  The Gospel According to Rome (1995) by James G. McCarthy  Romanism (1994) by Robert Zins  The Church of Rome at the Bar of History (1995) by William Webster

This is a new idea I have for a proposal to debate the biblical and/or historical evidence for/against the Roman Catholic Church from the Scriptures and/or the first five centuries of Christianity. If you love James White, James G. McCarthy, William Webster, and/or (the more friendly) Norman Geisler and believe their writings, arguments and evidence are devastating against the claims of the Roman Catholic Church, Email me to discuss a possible Email debate (I know you are out there, I see you on the various boards, in Amazon.com reviews, and all over the Internet). I offer the following as a structure, but we can discuss where changes need to be made.....

Jason Engwer (JasonTE on AOL) accepted the proposition for the debate. This online written debate took place in 2002.


Bibliography (books quoted or mentioned in the debate)

Further Bibliography (older scholarly Anglican vs. Catholic books for those who love this kind of Catholic-Protestant debate)

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